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In this episode:
Dave Asprey spent decades biohacking his body and brain—but one of his most profound experiences had nothing to do with living longer. He says he encountered God. Now he joins Julie Ryan to explore what biohacking taught him about consciousness, trauma, energy, intuition, death, and the nature of reality itself.
Dave, the founder of Bulletproof and a pioneer of the modern biohacking movement, explains why he believes longevity and consciousness are deeply connected—and why his own journey took him from being a self-described skeptic to exploring meditation, neurofeedback, altered states, energy work, and spirituality.
Dave shares the experience he describes as meeting God at a Joe Dispenza event and explains how it affected his understanding of consciousness. Julie and Dave also tackle one of humanity’s biggest questions: What happens when we die? Dave shares his views on death as a change of state, biocentrism, time, space, past lives, and whether consciousness extends beyond the physical body.
They also explore the connection between unresolved trauma and the body, including Dave’s experiences using forgiveness practices and energy techniques, along with his provocative “Five F’s” framework for understanding some of our most primal reactions.
Then things get even stranger.
Dave recounts experiments involving intention and AI, his experiences with energy work and psychic self-protection, and why he believes intuition can be understood as an altered state of consciousness.
You’ll also hear how Dave went from a sick, 300-pound skeptic to one of the world’s best-known voices in biohacking; why his journey began on a sacred mountain in Tibet; what decades of neurofeedback taught him about the mind; and why optimizing the body may ultimately be about something much bigger than simply living longer.
Julie and Dave also discuss ketones, sugar, coffee, meditation, emotional triggers, the mind-body connection, and the possibility that some of what we call fear may originate from ancient biological survival systems operating beneath conscious awareness.
Can consciousness be trained? Can trauma become embedded in our physical experience? What actually happens when we die? And what happens when someone obsessed with optimizing the human body begins exploring what might exist beyond it?
This conversation goes far beyond biohacking.
Guest Biography:
Dave Asprey is a longevity expert, four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee and The Bulletproof Diet, and a leading pioneer of the biohacking movement. After transforming his own health by losing more than 100 pounds and improving his cognitive performance, Dave dedicated his career to helping others optimize their health, performance, and longevity, helping popularize innovations including MCT oil and collagen protein along the way. He hosts the top-ranked The Human Upgrade podcast and is the author of the USA Today bestseller Heavily Meditated: The Fast Path to Remove Your Triggers, Dissolve Stress, and Activate Inner Peace. Dave also runs the 40 Years of Zen neurofeedback program, the BEYOND Biohacking Conference, a regenerative agriculture farm, and ventures including Danger Coffee and Upgrade Labs, while investing in innovative health and longevity companies and continuing to develop accessible tools for improving human performance and well-being.
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Episode Chapters:
(0:00:00) Welcome & Meet Dave Asprey
(0:01:57) The Spiritual Origin of the Biohacking Movement
(0:04:10) How a 300-Pound Skeptic Became a Spiritual Seeker
(0:08:28) Can Consciousness Influence Your Biology?
(0:11:04) The Energy Healing Dave Says Changed Her Life
(0:14:38) Can Human Intention Influence AI?
(0:18:22) Psychic Influence, Energy & Spiritual Protection
(0:24:48) Can Trauma Get Trapped in the Body?
(0:28:13) The 5 Primal Drives Controlling Your Reactions
(0:34:06) What Happened When Julie Finally Quit Sugar
(0:40:09) Is Intuition an Altered State of Consciousness?
(0:47:29) Can You Train Your Brain to Stop Being Triggered?
(0:52:58) Dave Asprey Says He Met God—Here’s What Happened
(0:59:31) Coffee, Mold & the Surprising History of Consciousness
(1:05:05) Why Fear May Not Be Coming From Your Conscious Mind
Episode Transcript
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